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	<description>What creates and sustains active citizenship?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Using participatory mapping to explore participation by David Owen</title>
		<link>http://pathwaysthroughparticipation.org.uk/2010/06/using-participatory-mapping-to-explore-participation-report/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>David Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve been following the pathways through participation project and note some interesting and relevant findings from the case study in Leeds in particular around University – Community relationships.

I just wanted to note that these findings are of interest, and I look forward to future publications, or any relevant data/resources that you share on the topic.  

The National Coordinating Centre for Public Engagement have been working using an Action Research approach to explore the unique characteristics of higher education institutions (HEIs) and the culture change needed to embed public engagement in them.   One of the themes arising from this work is the impact of space and place on the way universities and communities interact with each other.

For more information visit: http://www.publicengagement.ac.uk/our-research/action-research</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been following the pathways through participation project and note some interesting and relevant findings from the case study in Leeds in particular around University – Community relationships.</p>
<p>I just wanted to note that these findings are of interest, and I look forward to future publications, or any relevant data/resources that you share on the topic.  </p>
<p>The National Coordinating Centre for Public Engagement have been working using an Action Research approach to explore the unique characteristics of higher education institutions (HEIs) and the culture change needed to embed public engagement in them.   One of the themes arising from this work is the impact of space and place on the way universities and communities interact with each other.</p>
<p>For more information visit: <a href="http://www.publicengagement.ac.uk/our-research/action-research" rel="nofollow">http://www.publicengagement.ac.uk/our-research/action-research</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Citizen Power Peterborough by Ben Dellot</title>
		<link>http://pathwaysthroughparticipation.org.uk/2010/07/citizen-power-peterborough/comment-page-1/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Dellot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post Sarah,

And thanks for saying that the project give us a reason to be hopeful in a time of stark government spending cuts! This, combined with a localist drive seen in part through a Big Society agenda, has meant asking a great deal more from the everyday person - giving them the opportunity (and in some cases making it a necessity) for people to participate and innovate in helping to shape the places in which they live. 

Addressing that concern is at the centre of the Citizen Power project - using multi-disciplinary approaches to promote community attachment, participation and innovation; from holding artists&#039; residencies in communities to embedding the local area in childrens&#039; curriculum, the project is trying to reinvigorate citizenship in Peterborough as well as highlight the fantastic work that&#039;s already going on in the city.

Although still in their early planning stages, the projects will be kicking off in a few months time, with hopefully some fanatastic results to show in a year or so. 

But please check www.thersa.org now and again for updates on where we are with the programme.

Best,
Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post Sarah,</p>
<p>And thanks for saying that the project give us a reason to be hopeful in a time of stark government spending cuts! This, combined with a localist drive seen in part through a Big Society agenda, has meant asking a great deal more from the everyday person &#8211; giving them the opportunity (and in some cases making it a necessity) for people to participate and innovate in helping to shape the places in which they live. </p>
<p>Addressing that concern is at the centre of the Citizen Power project &#8211; using multi-disciplinary approaches to promote community attachment, participation and innovation; from holding artists&#8217; residencies in communities to embedding the local area in childrens&#8217; curriculum, the project is trying to reinvigorate citizenship in Peterborough as well as highlight the fantastic work that&#8217;s already going on in the city.</p>
<p>Although still in their early planning stages, the projects will be kicking off in a few months time, with hopefully some fanatastic results to show in a year or so. </p>
<p>But please check <a href="http://www.thersa.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.thersa.org</a> now and again for updates on where we are with the programme.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Ben</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it better to nudge or think? by Karl Wilding</title>
		<link>http://pathwaysthroughparticipation.org.uk/2010/06/is-it-better-to-nudge-or-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Wilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a blogpost I wrote on the NCVO site about the nudge/think event you mention:

In a monumental act of self sacrifice, I missed the first half of the England vs. Slovenia on Wednesday in order to attend a conference on how randomised control trials - experiments to you and me - might help policy makers understand how we can get people (aka citizens) more involved in public policy. The title for what turned out to be a very good seminar was: Is it better to nudge or to think. The seminar was based on work by academics at Manchester and Southampton Universities, including Peter John and Gerry Stoker, who in the past has advised NCVO through his work on local governance. The findings from the research can be found at the Civic Behaviour website.

The researchers tested two approaches: the idea that we can &#039;nudge&#039; people into doing more things by providing them with information &#039;cues&#039; that encourage positive, so-called &#039;pro-social&#039; behaviour. The idea that we can encourage - rather than compel - people to be good has risen up the agenda since the publication of Nudge by Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein. In the case of one experiment, the nudge was telling residents of a street how well they compared with a neighbouring street on household recycling. The second approach - whether we can get people to &#039;think&#039; - asks whether citizens are prepared to engage in deliberation over complex issues. One example here included online-based deliberation forums where over a period of 10 days people were asked to discuss youth anti-social behaviour.

Anorak warning: a few words about methodology. I&#039;ve referred to these as experiments: the important point here is that these interventions were all compared with &#039;control groups&#039; were there wasn&#039;t an intervention so that the researchers could be reasonably sure that the nudge or think is actually leading to changes in behaviour. There are some people who think randomised control trials should be used by voluntary organisations to demonstrate their outcomes - I&#039;d expect to hear more about this in relation to the outcomes/impact debate in future. By the way, experiments cost between £10-25k each.

So, what do these experiments tell us? The researchers argued that both nudges work particularly well. Surprisingly (to me, anyway) nearly all the nudges worked: so suggesting to people that their street might not recycle as much as the next street encouraged them to increase kerbside food recycling by 6%. Public displaying the names of donors who pledged to donate increase the rate of donations. I got the impression that deliberative exercises can work, but are less successful than nudging. Deliberation is clearly more time consuming and difficult and people&#039;s motivations for involvement are complex.

So what? Gerry Stoker made a really interesting point that stuck with me: citizens are willing to change their behaviour, help themselves and help others. People are far more civic minded and prepared to be involved than we give them credit for. The panel discussion, which included Phillip Blond, Matthew Taylor (who admirably left the seminar early to watch the football with his son) and the particularly interesting Toby Blume however highlighted some real challenges for those who to want to build the Big Society with either nudge or think. Questioners asked

• Nudge and think are aimed at solving mistrust in government - but what if it is government doing the nudging or running the deliberative exercises - will people be less responsive because of who is nudging or asking?
• Do nudges only work with simple, easy behaviour changes, like taking rubbish to your household boundary?
• Because these are experiments, do people behave in the way you want them to - and therefore will the real world be less successful?
• If nudge and think encourage collaboration and consensus, where does that leave the engaged citizens who don&#039;t want to be nudged - what might term the awkward squad?

Much of the discussion then turned to issues of citizen engagement and the Big Society. I would particularly recommend that you have a look at Kevin Harris&#039; write up of this part of the discussion - like Kevin, I was somewhat surprised by some of the comments about a lack of trust in society and the lack of architecture for engagement. NCVO and many others have said this time and again, but just because people don&#039;t practice civic engagement it doesn&#039;t mean they practice civil engagement. People are prepared to get involved, and they have many reasons for doing so. But they have to feel it is worth it.

One last thought. At the end I talked with the excellent David Wilcox about whether we were trying to overcomplicate some of this: fundraisers always say that despite reams of research on donor motivation, the reason people give to charity is because they are asked. David&#039;s response was a very simple typology:

• If you want people to give, ask them
• If you want people to act, support them
• If you want people to talk, listen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a blogpost I wrote on the NCVO site about the nudge/think event you mention:</p>
<p>In a monumental act of self sacrifice, I missed the first half of the England vs. Slovenia on Wednesday in order to attend a conference on how randomised control trials &#8211; experiments to you and me &#8211; might help policy makers understand how we can get people (aka citizens) more involved in public policy. The title for what turned out to be a very good seminar was: Is it better to nudge or to think. The seminar was based on work by academics at Manchester and Southampton Universities, including Peter John and Gerry Stoker, who in the past has advised NCVO through his work on local governance. The findings from the research can be found at the Civic Behaviour website.</p>
<p>The researchers tested two approaches: the idea that we can &#8216;nudge&#8217; people into doing more things by providing them with information &#8216;cues&#8217; that encourage positive, so-called &#8216;pro-social&#8217; behaviour. The idea that we can encourage &#8211; rather than compel &#8211; people to be good has risen up the agenda since the publication of Nudge by Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein. In the case of one experiment, the nudge was telling residents of a street how well they compared with a neighbouring street on household recycling. The second approach &#8211; whether we can get people to &#8216;think&#8217; &#8211; asks whether citizens are prepared to engage in deliberation over complex issues. One example here included online-based deliberation forums where over a period of 10 days people were asked to discuss youth anti-social behaviour.</p>
<p>Anorak warning: a few words about methodology. I&#8217;ve referred to these as experiments: the important point here is that these interventions were all compared with &#8216;control groups&#8217; were there wasn&#8217;t an intervention so that the researchers could be reasonably sure that the nudge or think is actually leading to changes in behaviour. There are some people who think randomised control trials should be used by voluntary organisations to demonstrate their outcomes &#8211; I&#8217;d expect to hear more about this in relation to the outcomes/impact debate in future. By the way, experiments cost between £10-25k each.</p>
<p>So, what do these experiments tell us? The researchers argued that both nudges work particularly well. Surprisingly (to me, anyway) nearly all the nudges worked: so suggesting to people that their street might not recycle as much as the next street encouraged them to increase kerbside food recycling by 6%. Public displaying the names of donors who pledged to donate increase the rate of donations. I got the impression that deliberative exercises can work, but are less successful than nudging. Deliberation is clearly more time consuming and difficult and people&#8217;s motivations for involvement are complex.</p>
<p>So what? Gerry Stoker made a really interesting point that stuck with me: citizens are willing to change their behaviour, help themselves and help others. People are far more civic minded and prepared to be involved than we give them credit for. The panel discussion, which included Phillip Blond, Matthew Taylor (who admirably left the seminar early to watch the football with his son) and the particularly interesting Toby Blume however highlighted some real challenges for those who to want to build the Big Society with either nudge or think. Questioners asked</p>
<p>• Nudge and think are aimed at solving mistrust in government &#8211; but what if it is government doing the nudging or running the deliberative exercises &#8211; will people be less responsive because of who is nudging or asking?<br />
• Do nudges only work with simple, easy behaviour changes, like taking rubbish to your household boundary?<br />
• Because these are experiments, do people behave in the way you want them to &#8211; and therefore will the real world be less successful?<br />
• If nudge and think encourage collaboration and consensus, where does that leave the engaged citizens who don&#8217;t want to be nudged &#8211; what might term the awkward squad?</p>
<p>Much of the discussion then turned to issues of citizen engagement and the Big Society. I would particularly recommend that you have a look at Kevin Harris&#8217; write up of this part of the discussion &#8211; like Kevin, I was somewhat surprised by some of the comments about a lack of trust in society and the lack of architecture for engagement. NCVO and many others have said this time and again, but just because people don&#8217;t practice civic engagement it doesn&#8217;t mean they practice civil engagement. People are prepared to get involved, and they have many reasons for doing so. But they have to feel it is worth it.</p>
<p>One last thought. At the end I talked with the excellent David Wilcox about whether we were trying to overcomplicate some of this: fundraisers always say that despite reams of research on donor motivation, the reason people give to charity is because they are asked. David&#8217;s response was a very simple typology:</p>
<p>• If you want people to give, ask them<br />
• If you want people to act, support them<br />
• If you want people to talk, listen</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Big Society: shaping people&#8217;s pathways? by Veronique Jochum</title>
		<link>http://pathwaysthroughparticipation.org.uk/2010/06/the-big-society-shaping-peoples-pathways/comment-page-1/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronique Jochum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to check out David Wilcox&#039;s delicious page on the Big Society which already lists over 100 links - http://delicious.com/socialreporter/bigsociety</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to check out David Wilcox&#8217;s delicious page on the Big Society which already lists over 100 links &#8211; <a href="http://delicious.com/socialreporter/bigsociety" rel="nofollow">http://delicious.com/socialreporter/bigsociety</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What do we plan to do? by The Big Society: Shaping people&#8217;s Pathways? &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</title>
		<link>http://pathwaysthroughparticipation.org.uk/about/what-do-we-plan-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator>The Big Society: Shaping people&#8217;s Pathways? &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] activities, something that the Pathways project will also begin to explore as we go into the in-depth interview phase of the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Resources by The third issue of our newsletter is now available &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</title>
		<link>http://pathwaysthroughparticipation.org.uk/resources/comment-page-1/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>The third issue of our newsletter is now available &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 18:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Resources by Literature review: 2 more summaries available &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</title>
		<link>http://pathwaysthroughparticipation.org.uk/resources/comment-page-1/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>Literature review: 2 more summaries available &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 17:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Participatory mapping in Enfield by Participatory mapping in Leeds &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</title>
		<link>http://pathwaysthroughparticipation.org.uk/2010/04/participatory-mapping-in-enfield/comment-page-1/#comment-611</link>
		<dc:creator>Participatory mapping in Leeds &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] area, and you can find out more about the session in Suffolk here, and the Enfield workshop here. All the workshops intended to not only begin to explore local understandings and perspectives of [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Participatory mapping in Leeds by Participatory mapping in Enfield &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Participatory mapping in Enfield &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can find out more about the Leeds workshops here, and the sessions in Suffolk here. And look out for our forthcoming report on all three mapping [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Participatory mapping in Suffolk &#8212; Pathways Through Participation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can find out more about the session in Leeds here, and the Enfield workshop [...]</description>
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